Sunday, March 2, 2014

How long before this camera is considered obsolete?




upwardly_m


My son is a high school senior. Next year he wants to go to community college and live at home (at least that is reasonably affordable) instead of going away to school. He wants to take an expensive major however. Video production. We have been able to save about $5,000 towards his education. We are not wealthy people. The rest will have to come from loans and maybe a grant or scholarship.
We are looking at some "entry level" pro cameras in the $1500-1800 range. That's about 1/3 of our savings for his education.
Models include these:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/518555-REG/Sony_HVRHD1000U_HVR_HD1000U_Digital_High_Definition.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/745707-REG/Sony_HXR_MC2000U_HXR_MC2000U_Shoulder_Mount_AVCHD.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/878341-REG/Panasonic_hmc40kit_AG_HMC40_AVCCAM_HD_Camcorder.html
and
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/749467-REG/Canon_4922B002_XA10_HD_Professional_Camcorder.html

My concern is he starts September 2013 so these products may not even be available by then or others will be available. We hope he graduates May 2015. He tells us when he graduates he will maybe find a freelance job or shoot local cable news, build up some experience, maybe after 2 years go for a B.A. at least part time.
Is anything we buy him in 2013 (summer) going to be any use to him as a working professional in 2015 (summer)? So let's say you are a class of 2012 graduate with an AAS in video production. The camera you purchased in the summer of 2010 when you first started, do you still use it professionally? Can you make anything doing freelance news videos, PR videos or local account commercials with this equipment?
We're going to do everything we can to help him. No doubt he will still be living at home in the summer of 2015. By then he's going to have a student loan to pay off. We have a 2005 Hyundai Accent that we are going to give him for college. I hope that thing still runs when it is 10 years old and he isn't making car payments on top of that. The thing has 120,000 miles on it but runs really well. I just fear when he graduates he's going to be in deep debt and have limited employment. I may be wrong. What do you think? Thanks.



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Hi "Upwardly Mobile":

Fellow Contributor "L" covered most of the bases quite well, but the only point he didn't underscore is that MOST good video & film production programs at community colleges HAVE the cameras, lights, mikes, tripods, and other gear that the students will learn on & use.

When I went to a local (but nationally prominent) university with a Broadcast/Film Dept., portable video was still fairly new, but all the film cameras, tripods, & light kits were supplied by the Department for students to "check out" as-needed for class projects.

And most video production students start out with Studio Production techniques (where it's easier for groups to learn 3-point lighting, camera setup & tripod/dolly operation, shot composition, audio techniques & mixing, etc.). No need for portable field gear there.

For field production & Electronic News Gathering, a good college will have a fair number of camcorders for students to use & check out (if needed for outside-of-class projects).

The same is true for Editing Software & computer workstations. Some college programs might be economizing and making students supply their own laptops for this, but all the major software companies offer Academic Editions of their normally-expensive edit suites at discounted prices. And of course, nowadays, apps like iMovie (Mac) and Movie Maker (PC) come "free" as part of the operating system and can accomplish what older (and expensive) software used to do, as far as basic editing.

As "L" mentioned, do a bit of "homework" yourself by contacting the community college's department head & instructors for your son's chosen major. Tour the facilities (studio and edit suites) and ask about the "equipment room" for student project gear. See what textbooks (a major expense) are required, and whether computer/laptop & software expense will be part of what's expected of your son. Only if there's little-or-no camcorder gear (or no hands-on studio cameras) would I recommend buying anything like the models from B+H that you listed.

Almost every cable TV & freelance video job I've had over the past 30 years has "supplied" (rented or company-owned) the cameras & grip gear I needed. I bring my own gear only when it's a "favor" or when what I have is better-suited to the task, or they want a "director with gear". My point being, your son doesn't need to own =any= camera gear to make a living freelancing. A good camera operator can stay busy in almost any part of the country, with just his/her skills. (Same for sound mixers & boom/wireless mike operators.)

hope this helps, and hope it saves you some money,
--Dennis C.
 




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Camcorder with lots of features?




Whattodono


So recently I've been looking around for good sturdy video cameras for a cheaper price. I don't want a small handheld thing, because well, those are too small and annoying. I recently found a Betamax camcorder in my dads closet, unfortunately it's broken. However I was struck by it.

It had lots of features on it: Viewfinder, nice big Microphone, whiteblance lense, info red sensor for auto focus, zoom ring, and focus control, adjustable strap, white balance switch, external microphone jack, earphone jack, and I liked that. Here's a picture of how it looks:

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bestbuzz.fr/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/betamax.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bestbuzz.fr/%3Fp%3D9345&usg=__HxsysaEkcREpC2BNj0ggDx1uZTU=&h=576&w=334&sz=30&hl=en&start=0&sig2=c6tDnHiuoqezsrcvby9EGw&zoom=1&tbnid=uyTh5M0JiJceXM:&tbnh=130&tbnw=75&ei=DdYBTqC2E8XniAK808yjCA&prev=/search%3Fq%3DBetamax%2Bvideo%2Bcamera%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D690%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=470&vpy=33&dur=2875&hovh=295&hovw=171&tx=95&ty=138&page=1&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0&biw=1024&bih=690


See, nice big and sturdy. I'd rather a size like that than a super small handheld one. Does anyone have any suggestions for modern cameras similar to my needs (Perferably a pretty low price one)

Best answer gets points! Thank you! :D



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Consumer level HD camcorders have 3 problems. 1) Blurry, fuzzy, out of focus areas closely around people in videos taken by consumer level HD camcorders. 2) Any movement, even a wave or lifting an arm, while in front of a recording consumer level HD camcorder, results in screen ghosts and artifacts being left on the video track, following the movement. Makes for bad video, sports videos are unwatchable. 3) Mandatory maximum record times - 1 hour, 30 minutes, 8 minutes, 3 minutes â four different times advertised as maximum record time for some consumer level HD camcorders. No event I have ever been to is that short. Either take multiple camcorders or pack up with out getting the end of the event on video.

With a MiniDV tape camcorder, record 60 or 90 minutes ( camcorder settings), 90 seconds or less to change a tape and record for 60 or 90 more and repeat till you run out of tapes.

You can get a Canon ZR960 for $250. It is a MiniDV tape camcorder, has a Mic jack. You need a firewire (IEEE1394) card ($25 to 30) for the computer and a firewire cable (less than 10) to be able to transfer video to your computer. To say this is not HD, think about this. It would cost in excess of $3500 to get a HD camcorder that could equal the video Quality of a $250 Canon MiniDV tape camcorder.

That camcorder you see is a VHS camcorder and is not compatible, at least very easily in any way with a computer of modern day vintage. To get a camcorder that size will cost 3 or 4 thousand dollars, even used would cost you $1500 to 2000. Step into this century with a camcorder that does is capable of easy transfer to your computer. Deal with the small size of today's camcorders the best you can because that is the new norm.

Need Help Selecting A Camcorder?




Blake


I need help selecting a camcorder. First: I want it priced between $100 to $300. Second: I want it to have good quality picture and sound. Third: I want to be good for making movies. Fourth: I want to sold from a trustworthy place. Please leave an answer and any other details. Thank You! Also I want it to be easy to use.


Answer
Canon ZR85 MiniDV Camcorder w/20x Optical Zoom
Technical Details

* MiniDV camcorder takes video and stills and connects effortlessly to your computer, TV, or VCR
* 20x optical zoom lens (digital zoom to 400x) and image stabilizer
* 2.5-inch LCD with 180-degree rotation
* Capture low-light recordings with Night Mode
* Record for up to 2 hour and 5 minutes on one battery charge
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-ZR85-MiniDV-Camcorder-Optical/dp/B0001AN1H8/?tag=bdd-linking-005-20

Canon FS300 Flash Memory Camcorder (Silver) - 2010 MODEL
Technical Details
Color: Silver

* Records video directly to removable SD memory cards
* Ultra-Sleek, Compact and Lightweight Design (7.9 oz)
* Genuine Canon 41x Advanced Zoom
* Canon DIGIC DV II Image Processor
* Dynamic SuperRange OIS corrects a full range of motion
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-FS300-Memory-Camcorder-Silver/dp/B00322ON1K/?tag=bdd-linking-005-20
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